Was lest ihr alles ?

hmm regelmässig lese ich eigentlich nur tageszeitung (haz) und die plastic bomb

naja bücher die ich im letzten halben jahr gelesen hab waren:

nathaniel hawthorne "the scarlet letter"
aidan chambers "post cards from no man's land"
chuck palahniuk "fight club"
robert cormier "after the first death"
edgar allen poe "tales of mystery, might and imagination"
James Joyce "the dubliners"
James Joyce "finnegan's wake" ..verdammt nochma das schwerste buch was ich bislang gelesen hab
James Joyce "a portrait of the artist as a young man"
Frank McCourt "angela's ashes"
"dubliners" udn "angela's ashes" hab ich für schule gelesen, den rest freiwillig (is komishc zu betonen dass man büche freiwillig liest oder?)
naja .. "reading English books is the best and easiest way to improve your skills"...

Im Moment les ich macbeth von shakespeare ...für die schule ...

das letzte deutsche buch das ich gelesen hab war glaub ich im westen nix neues von remarque .. und das is echt shco länger her

und ich persönlich HASSE es wenn man für die schule ein Buch lesen MUSS ..gibt nix schlimmeres als sich durch ein durchzuquälen .. durch sowas wird einem echt der spass am lesen genommen... vielleicht les ich deswegen auch lieber englische bücher

the outisders is n grossartiges buch .. "stay gold pony boy, stay gold!"

naja es ging mir nich ums für die schule lesen sondern darum, dass man sich echt durch bücher quälen muss die einen a) nich interessiern und die b) einfach unter zeitdruck zu lesen sind. aber man kann auch bücher im unterricht lesen udn interpretieren und das macht spass ...hab das bei mir im englisch LK .. wir hatten bislang noch keine lektüre die langweilig zu lesen war...

Zitat von Bad Taste

Und süchtig bin ich nach der Zeitschrift P.M. History!

oh mist die PM udn PM history hätt ich fast vergessen .. wenn die mir anner tankstelle oder im supermarkt übern weg läuft kauf ich mir die auch immer ...

Bass "need a haircut greaser" ...zum greaser brauchste aber noch n lütten mehr schleim innen haaren

haha deckert gut dass du mich dran erinnerst ich wollt dazu eh nochw as schreiben .. also .. das buch ist verdammt gut .. vor allem besser als der film weil es irgendwie "ausführlicher" und auch n bisschen brutaler ist. der unnamed narrator hat zum beispiel n loch inner wangte das nicht heilt weil er sich bei einem seiner ersten fights n stück fleisch da raus gebissen hat. das buch ist auch einfach n bisschen lustiger als der film .. der erzähler sitzt zum beispiel im büro sien chef kommt rein und er steckt sich den finger von innen durch das loch in der backe ..besonders gut hat mir gefallen, dass dass der erzähler nich wie im film jack ("I'm jack's broken heart") sondern JOE heisst .. da wird deutlich dass der erzähler eben wirklich jeder sein kann .. eben der typische JOE AVERAGE... mir fällt grad ein ich hab n review zu dem buch geschrieben:

"„Fight Club“ by Chuck Palahniuk is basically about four topics: self destruction, alienation, revolution and anarchy.

It starts with Tyler Durden putting a gun into the narrator’s mouth on top of the world’s highest building which will explode in a few minutes. The narrator now begins to retell how he got to that point.

The narrator who will remain nameless throughout the whole novel suffers from insomnia and therefore attends support groups to see what real „suffering“ means, although he isn’t sick at all. At a testicular cancer support group named „remaining man together“ he meets Bob, a big guy whose testicles had been removed 6 months before and now has breasts due to a overproduction of estrogen. These support groups and crying in Bob’s arms made the narrator feel free and overcome his insomnia. After 2 years of going to support groups Marla Singer appears at the support groups and all the narrator’s freedom is suddenly gone and his insomnia is back. He can’t cry and let himself fall with Marla watching him, because he knows that Marla is a liar like himself, she is a reflection of his lie. Hence he talks to Marla and they split the weekly support groups so that they don’t meet again.

The narrator works as a „recall campaign coordinator“ for a big company and thus he has to travel a lot. On one of those trips he meets Tyler Durden at a beach and Tyler gives him his number. Coming home from a trip to Washington D.C. the narrator finds his apartment blown up by a mysterious detonation and all his possessions destroyed.
„Then you’re trapped in your lovely nest, and the things you used to own, now they own you. Until I got home from the airport.“

The narrator remembers to have Tyler Durden’s number, calls him and they agree to meet at a bar. Tyler offers the narrator to move in with him at his house on Paper street but only under one condition: „I want you to hit me as hard as you can.“ First the narrator refuses to hit him but Tyler tells him that he doesn‘t want to die without any scars and therefore they fight in a parking lot which is actually the initiation of fight club.
Now every Saturday night men gather in the basement of that bar and fight one on one. Fight club which is somehow led by Tyler Durden and the narrator is not about winning or losing the fight it is just about fighting itself, about self-destruction.

Living with Tyler Durden in the decaying house on paper street for some weeks the narrator discovers a condom in the toilet one morning and meets Marla in the kitchen. Marla stayed the last night with Tyler Durden after trying to commit suicide, not a real suicide but a„cry-for help-thing“ as she calls it. Now Marla has not only taken away a part of the narrator’s support groups but Tyler’s company as well.

Tyler has three jobs, he is a film projectionist where he slices pornographic pictures into the films, he is a waiter where he pees into soup bowls and he produces and sells soap. This soap was made of boiled human fat stolen from a liposuction clinic mixed with lye. So the „Paper Street Soap Company“ was actually selling the rich people their own fat to clean themselves.

After not going to the support groups for six weeks the narrator attends „remaining man together“ and finds Bob sitting there alone. Bob tells him that the group disbanded and that there was a new group which is called „fight club“ and meets every friday night at a closed garage across the town. That’s the point where the narrator realizes that „fight club“ was bigger than he ever expected and that Tyler Durden is a legend. As Fight Club grew bigger and more popular, Tyler decided that he had to take the fighting to higher level or shut the whole fight club thing down. That was when Tyler invented Project Mayhem.

-> homework assignments

Project Mayhem’s goal was „the complete and right-away destruction of civilization.“ It consists of committees, named „Arson“, „Assault“, „Mischief“ and „Misinformation“. Tyler turns the house on Paper Street into barracks for Project Mayhem to recruit and train a little guerilla army. The Project Mayhem members committed several acts of vandalism like setting a forest fire in a park, snipering paint balls on sculptures or setting some offices on fire so that the single fires will give the picture of a burning grimace on the facade of the skyscraper.

One day the narrator comes home and Tyler is gone, the „space monkeys“ are rendering fat and no one knows where Tyler has gone so the narrator travels across the land trying to find out where Tyler is and what he is planning. But the narrator can’t find Tyler and stays in a motel in Seattle as Tyler suddenly appears. Tyler reveals that he is actually an invention of the narrator’s fantasy, a schizophrenic hallucination, a projection of everything he wants to be and takes over control every time the narrator falls asleep.

This is the turning point of the story, the narrator now tries to shut down all the fight clubs and Project Mayhem but Tyler’s influence grew too big and he fails. The narrator now begs Marla to keep him awake so that Tyler won’t take over control and Marla stays with him at a hotel room. The next morning the narrator goes to work but there had been an explosion and he knows that this was Tyler and hence the police will be looking for him. So the narrator takes the bus but the bus is full of space monkeys which are planing to castrate him for he tried to shut down Fight Club. Then someone presses ether on the narrator’s mouth and he becomes unconscious. He wakes up on the subfloor of his exploded apartment, grabs his balls to see if they’re still there and then calls Marla. Marla and the narrator meet at the bowel cancer support group and the narrator tells Marla that the she might be in great danger as Tyler considers her as a threat to Project Mayhem and might plan to kill her.

And this is how the narrator got on top of that building packed with explosives and Tyler pointing a gun at the narrator’s head. Suddenly Marla appears with the members of the bowel cancer support group and Tyler is gone. Now the narrator is holding the gun in his mouth himself and Marla tells him that he doesn’t need to commit suicide but the narrator replies that he isn’t but just killing Tyler and so he pulls the trigger.

The last chapter is really confusing, one supposes that the narrator now must be dead for he shot himself right in the face but he says that he is in heaven but this actually can’t be. He receives letters and calls from Marla so “heaven” might be a metaphor for psychiatry where he ended up.

Why I liked to read that book

This novel, depicting the narrator as the average middle-class, middle aged white male of the 1990‘s, gives a very critical view on today’s society and how this society alienates people. People seek bliss in buying up everything that’s been selling and try to be complete, not realizing that „being complete“ actually means „being dead“. „Self- destruction“ and „hitting bottom“ is the only way for the narrator to break out of the cycle of „going to college, getting a job, getting married, making babies, working, dying“ and finally LIVE.
„...Nothing is static. Even the Mona Lisa is falling apart. Since fight club, I can wiggle half the teeth in my jaw. Maybe self-improvement isn't the answer. Maybe self-destruction is the answer.“ "

Zitat von Bass

Nachdem ich deinen imposanten Text gelesen habe werde ich mir das Buch wohl kaufen ! Ich hätte gedacht du wärst englischer Muttersprachler
Cu

das fass ich jez ma als kompliment auf ..bin aber alles andere als native speaker naja wie in diesem thread schonma gesagt "reading English books is the best and easiest way to improve your skills"... wenn man sich dann noch für musik interessiert und auch mit den texten beschäftigt und wenn einem dann irgendwann mal auffällt dass die meisten synchronisierten filme schlecht synchronisiert sind entwickelt man interesse an der englischen sprache .. und dann lernt sich das fast von selber.. war zumindest bei mir so
und ich kann dir wirklich nur empfehlen dir das buch zu kaufen .. und wenn du das buch liest wirst du automatisch anfangen das zu interpretiern wo wir wieder bei unserer diskussion um freiwillige interpretation versus schule sind ..FULL CIRCLE

udn @deckert... schön dass ich dir ne freude machen konnte...

jau "fight club" is der vollständige titel.. autor is "chuck palahniuk" ..ca 200 seiten dick .. hab ne UK version weil billiger weiss nich obs dir was bringt wenn cih dir die ISBN nenne ...naja fight club werden die schon kennen .. biste grad innen usa?